Question

Would running Action Tiles and SharpTools together hurt anything?  

Answer 1

There does'nt seem to be a way to control scenes in either app.  

Comments

@sporades70699 you have to run routines :) and routines can be set to run scenes in classic app

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@sporades70699 The old API's didn't support executing scenes directly (that I ever found anyway). You could use a roundabout http call and webhook and do it, but there are easier ways like routines as @trout679 mentioned. The NEW API's however are supposed to allow scene access directly. I'm just starting with the new developer interface and not dealing with scenes yet, but direct scene access is listed as a feature.  

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@trout679 I dont have routines anymore. I am not sure when it happened but the only thing I have now are just the SmartApps in both Classic and new.  

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Routines should be under automation in ST classic

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@trout679 this what I have in classic app.  

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They removed routines from the classic app . You will keep them so long as you dont delete them. Its when you delete the last routine it will disappear for you. Its been replaced for automations and scenes i the new app, which i understand cant be linked into actiontiles easily due to something samsung have or havent done. I do however have a method of linking scenes in actiontiles but will have to be when i get on PC to get it

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Define a actiontiles shortcut with the URL: javascript:$. ajax({type: 'POST', url: '<SCENE ID>/execute', headers: { 'Authorization': 'Bearer <PERSONAL ACCESS TOKEN>'}}); The easiest way to get the <SCENE ID> manually is to view your location in the IDE (account. smartthings. com) and 'List Scenes'. To get the <PERSONAL ACCESS TOKEN> go to account. smartthings. com/tokens and generate a token with suitable scenes scope.  
https://api.smartthings.com/v1/scenes/

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@sporades70699 go to Home

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The new server backend is dropping routines. They're going the way of extinction, replaced (sort of) by Automations.  

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@sixpack that’s a bummer. At least they could be used in AT.  

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@sporades70699 not anymore. AT just calls them from ST. Once ST no longer supports them, AT won't be able to call them. The good news, is that scenes will be able to be directly called in the new API's, so that's good.  

Answer 2

Don't they both do the same thing? They are web url's so whichever one you pick will open. Are you going to use Fully Kiosk Browser? If so, I think it will only open 1 url.  

Comments

@painting SharpTools has features outside of just panel displays.  

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@hague Gotcha

Answer 3

No issues at all. It's like running Google Home and Alexa at the same time.  

Answer 4

Just looking to see which one would give me the most flexibility.  

Answer 5

Nope. I use both.  

Comments

@sixpack same

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I have some basic room lighting controls on my phone home screen, possible as a widget with SharpTools. Those aren't very detailed, just on/off for major room lighting. I use ActionTiles as my primary control and has various panels; a high level like my SharpTools widgets and more detailed panels to do anything more detailed or finer control over specific lights as opposed to whole room lights. Both compliment each other. I don't use the SharpTools rule engine, I didn't see much value in it - it's fine and works but doesn't add much that I saw over the built in Automations and Webcore. So my SharpTools use is just for the widgets on my phone for quick access without launching ActionTiles.