The fact that I’m involved with this group shows that I’m still struggling. Never made it through step 3 of Dave’s plan, but must say that I think he’s spot on about the debt snowball. I think the positive reinforcement of paying the smaller balances off and watching your snowball really get rolling outweighs the advantage of the avalanche. Worth the extra payment at the end for me to get the momentum. Dave has this my-way-is-the-right-way-dummy mentality, but that really works for some people. His audience seems to be people that really need the strict guidance. Like the no credit card for any reason. He uses a blanket NO because the majority of people seeking his help have self discipline problems with credit. He can’t pick and choose who can and can’t use it and pay it off entirely every month, so he just says don’t do it. Don’t tempt yourself or test yourself. Just say no. You know you better than anyone though. I feel I could do it for the rewards, but my past record doesn’t suggest my feelings are to be trusted so for now I’m abstaining. More to your question though, do it through a local church. I don’t think it costs anything that way. (I don’t think ) I hate paying for budgeting help when I’m cutting my expenses.