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Has anybody tried this service? Supposedly they can identify 35% of your anonymous website traffic email addresses and that its 100% legal. Can you imagine being able to Market to over a third of your Anonymous website visitors without having to pay for retargeting? If it works, this is amazing.  
https://getemails.com/?fbclid=IwAR2...mgVmA

Answer 1

Getting the emails may be legal but using them is another thing.  

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Right now it wouldn't be illegal to remarket them in say FB, but then again why not just use the FB pixel?  

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Read Facebook's terms and conditions for uploading emails for retargeting. I believe they reflect the law in most countries. Otherwise the market for email lists from phishing or scraping would be booming while spam levels would be up. With regards to remarketing question, yea, just use the pixel, I agree. But he said you could retarget for free so I imagine he's talking about email marketing, which to not hit spam boxes you really wanna use a good email marketing service. one that has rules about collecting emails and insists on at least single opt-in while looking out for suspicious rates of spam complaints and unsubscribes and booting the guilty from their service to keep their servers off of blacklists. So all in all, I don't see a real use case scenario for this. Maybe seeing them as leads in a b2b sense or something but all in all I don't see a reason to think much of this. also, this has nothing to do with SEO.  

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@carmelcarmela79 I would never use this service just thinking out loud what you could do.  

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@carmelcarmela79 It's legal and if you go to the website, you'll see why. Also, do you happen to be new to this group? Because there are frequent posts that are indirectly related to search engine optimization. A lot of people in here are agency owners, and they're always looking for new leads. So this is indirectly related to search engine optimization in that way. It's surprising to me that you don't see a use case scenario for this. If somebody comes to your website, then There is a high likelihood that they're interested in the services you provide. We've been using albacross, which tracks only businesses that visit our website and it's been fantastic.  

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I see now, very cheeky. I still wouldn't risk getting my domain spam-listed over it though. I can imagine the report rate on these are high. I would still thoroughly read my email marketing providers terms and conditions. Just because they have Mailchimp's logo on there, don't mean they're cool with it. All their customers and their entire business relies on them staying in good standing with the internet as a whole.  

Answer 2

I've been using Albacross for this. It works quite well

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@sheply52 we use it too. But it only captures businesses.  

Answer 3

Wow, that is seriously unethical.  

Answer 4

Yeah GDPR would have a fucking field day with this

Answer 5

That sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.  

Answer 6

Knowing how data is collected and used other methods to collect demographic info, I doubt the emails are accurate. 35% sounds really high. I would estimate 15%.  

Answer 7

If just one party in such story is tied with European Union, is not legal. Doesn't matter if you use it or not. Personal data now is like illegal drugs

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@kingfisher13887 mmmm, I love illegal drugs ;-)

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@grizzly I love the way I picture grey ugly things ;)

Answer 8

We used to run an append service like this. High percentage of the emails returned were incorrect, hard bounces and spamtraps. Was a huge abuse bomb once you mailed them.  

Answer 9

Might be a reseller for Gil's clickcertain platform.  

Answer 10

Not legal in the UK due to GDPR. I am betting that would be in violation.  

Answer 11

Apparently it's 100% legal. This is just about one of the examples that they used to put people at ease who might be afraid of privacy issues.  

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Cheeky fucks, very clever. I very much doubt they have a big database though.  

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@carmelcarmela79 Yeah, that's why I was wondering if Anybody had used the service. I might try it out.  

Answer 12

Designed consent from network partners.  

Answer 13

At a 35% capture rate, and 0. 1% complaint rate, that means my biggest site would get about 150 monthly spam complaints. No thanks.  

Answer 14

No way there is a 35% match rate for emails on a visitor ID tool. Company matches? Sure. It doesn’t even make sense for it to be email matches. Imagine a b2b company that has many employees. How would it be possible to identify the specific user?  

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The users actually sign up and submit their email address. Well, the ones they can detect did.  

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Ive used a lot of these tools. I call bullshit.  

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@portie We use Albacross. We picked up a lifetime subscription for $49 on appsumo. Yes, sometimes A company will be logged with dozens of email addresses and there's no way to know who visited the site. But for $49, I like the intelligence of knowing who's coming to my site. Plus a few of them are solid leads.  

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Yeah I use a visitor ID tool as well to identify companies that visit my sites. If I have the contact in MY database it will identify them as well. The tool I use is part of a larger marketing automation system though. It works pretty well, but there is a lot of noise with hostnames. I used Leedfeeder for ages also and it is actually pretty solid. So is Leadforensics but it's expensive, as is Clearbit Reveal. Can't beat the $49 LTD!  

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@portie We looked into lead forensics as well, even did a demo but they're way too expensive. I hadn't heard of the others. Thanks for turning me on I'm going to check them out.  

Answer 15

Interesting. Would love to hear someone with a case study.