In this thread a couple of phrases caught my eye I have to question 1. "No links? " - which website has no links? You mean you did not engage in active link building. OK. maybe next item 2. You don't "believe in links". Ok man, I'm out. 2. "No link building"? You probably still have links. Believe it or not, legit sites get links either way over the years. Don't have to be many. 3. Negative SEO causes Negative Link Velocity? Maybe, maybe not. 4. You see a drop from 117 to 95 ref domains in Ahrefs/Majestic/Semrush and still rank? Man, this has nothing to do with the Link Velocity Metrics I talk about. We look at past 6 / 24 and 6/12 and 4 to 24 months. I don't even know where to get that data in any other product besides LRT If you have some sites for me to check, I'm happy to collect them here, or via PM (then) and look deeper. That'd be awesome. Thanks for your interest! Yes, I know Google said it takes 2-3 weeks to rollout to their 100. 000 servers. As usual. So what? Effects we see today are effects we can look at today. Let's not pretend we can sit this out.