Question

Over 700 confirmed cases in ZIP 60016. They can't all be in unincorporated Des Plaines. Did the mayor give any more details?  

Answer 1

Of 56000 residents. Let's see thats 1%. I can manage that.  

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@linkboy if you look at the graph, the first data point is approximately 4-11, and at that point there were 111 cases, now, less than ONE MONTH later there are 707 cases, there is no manipulation on the graph. Your point on testing is irrelevant as obviously at some point there will be zero. The point of the graph is that now that testing is being done, the number of people infected is rising as expected, and you should take that under consideration when deciding whether or not this is under control.  

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@republicanize73 You may be correct but not because it is on the graph. The graph just shows the number of positive cases based on the number tested and not necessarily that there is an increase in actual cases. I would be concerned that the numbers of infected are rising but all im saying is the graph does not tell me that. Can you positively confirm that all the people who were positive in May totally weren't in April? Dont just assume.  

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@linkboy there is no correlation on the graph between the number of people tested and the number currently confirmed, it only shows the rise in the number of confirmed cases over the roughly last month. Who knows how many are infected, that's the point. Those tested in May, may or may not have been in April, those who test in June, may or may not have been in May. Don't assume that many, many aren't infected and won't know until they are tested.  

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@republicanize73 Thats true. I perform testing professionally and graphs are important ways to deliver information but I rarely pay attention to them, I look for the data and proof that backs them up. I feel bad for the sufferers and it pisses me off that it is happening so close to home too. I just would prefer that we don't use graphs and others as a way to display assumptions as fact.  

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I thought it was funny, @republicanize73. Just having a little fun.  

Answer 2

As of last night, The Daily Herald reported 936 cases in Des Plaines. My guess is that includes recovered patients as well.  

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Yeah, I'm hoping 95% recover but we don't get death counts by ZIP yet

Answer 3

@guatemala, nearing the end of April, Golf View Developmental Center at 9555 West Golf Road (a facility for the disabled) had at least 87 cases and three deaths.  

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@strut44523 yep I live right down the road from there and the people in and out are smoking on outside and then one went back in. watching as I am sitting at corner to try and cross golf. which is a joke with the traffic with stay at home order. scary times

Answer 4

What does being unincorporated have to do with the number of cases? I've heard that used before and I don't understand.  

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The mayor said there were a larger number of cases in the part of ZIP 60016 that is in unincorporated Des Plaines. Not that it matters except it isn't under his jurisdiction.  

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New to Des Plaines lived here two years, not sure the areas they are referring to but is it density? It's almost as if we're saying well it's those people not us?  

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@trickle high density housing.  

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Unincorporated would be the rast river rd and the otter ballard area also another unincorporated area would be blackhawk, touhy and Oasis 60018 Rosemont falls into 60018.  

Answer 5

@trickle, Des Plaines is broken into two zip codes (60018 and 60016). Part of 60016 includes an unincorporated area of Des Plaines. The number of cases in 60016 (707) vs 60018 (306) is much higher (more than double).  

Answer 6

I understand all that, but why does unincorporated equal higher number of cases?  

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That's a good question! It includes the Golfview Developmental Center which tragically has almost 100 cases and maybe some nursing homes too?  

Answer 7

Do they tell you how many cases are asymptomatic?  

Answer 8

We could just have a lot of essential workers living here and are unable to stay home. I don’t think it matters if it’s unincorporated or not. Maybe 60016 covers a larger area also. Des Plaines is pretty big compared to other surrounding suburbs I believe.  

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@graphemics Nota parking space to be had in the high density neighborhoods. Many. People home. Doubt it’s due to residents being essential workers.  

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@gynaecocracy just my opinion and I know lots of essential workers that live here and in other places. Several of my neighbors still go to work

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@graphemics I’m with you and I’m going in every day.  

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@graphemics if it’s essential workers then there’s a real problem. See, everybody else is asking where cases are coming from. NYC has the most info. Most new cases were nonessentials stayed at home. Followed by nursing homes. So if essential workers here are getting sick but not elsewhere it would mean there’s done other problem.  

Answer 9

I'm 60016 river rd and oakwood block. I don't think I'm unincorporated am i?  

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@picrite no Your Des Plaines city. Unincorporated is more of Golf And Potter vicinity.  

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@caddell12877 oh thats good

Answer 10

Unincorporated Des Plaines is full of tons of Condo and apartment complexes so a big number could be from there. The area near Omega down Dee Road in either direction is all unincorporated Des Plaines.  

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@chevaldefrise thanks for the explanation. I could not find online the unincorporated area boundaries

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@vienna3985 yah part of unincorporated area is near Lutheran General there are tons of townhomes, condos, and apartments. Part of unincorporated attends School District 62 other part School District 63.  

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@chevaldefrise yes I live off the street oak lane that is just west of Cabrini retreat center (golf and potter) which is unincorporated

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@although yah we’ve lived between Central and Golf also unincorporated.  

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Here is a question the advocate building over off Mt Prospect ed. That is a testing facility also 60016. Are they counting the testing numbers from there claiming they live in town?  

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@navaho from what I read, they get counted where they live, their actual home address, not where they get tested.  

Answer 11

The number of people tested per area is a significant factor to be considered in these numbers.  

Answer 12

It’s hard to see actual numbers for Des Plaines, when they are reporting by ZIP Code and including in 60016, part of unincorporated Main Township.  

Answer 13

60016. Without looking there’s at least three nursing homes. It includes high density areas like the downtown condos and the condos and apartment complexes in unincorporated. If just the nursing facilities had 100 each you’d account for half. And there may be more than three.  

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@woodsy I was gonna say I have one a block from me on river rd and miner

Answer 14

Sounds more near golf mill

Answer 15

We will never learn the exact truth.  

Answer 16

Imagine how many people had it last month and didn't qualify for testing. Asymptomatic or not, no test! There have been MANY more that have had it and recovered. Assume it's everywhere

Answer 17

Can we discuss any positive recovery stories, specifically in DP. Does anyone know of people that got it and recovered? I know a family of 3 (daughter and both parents) had it and recovered . Or any stories of where people got it? Ex. Went to jewel and started showing symptoms days later. I know employees from Fiesta Market had tested positive a few weeks ago and Butera had a few employees that tested positive as well.  

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@kantianism, I know one person first hand that has recovered. They had mild symptoms. The individual kept themselves in quarantine before, during and after being confirmed positive.  

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Positive story: my cousin, her kids, all had it. For the most part, everyone was just exhausted and achy. But they've pulled a full recovery, and somehow her husband (who hid in the basement most of the time) never got it.  

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Does this show that this lockdown is not working?  

Answer 18

Test in the Walmart parking on the weekends. Guaranteed to find a few out there

Answer 19

I’m in unincorporated Des Plaines. I think this data is wrong

Answer 20

Don’t just assume it’s us in the unincorporated area. It’s those people who refuse to wear masks who let their kids run around the store touching everything.  

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@tidy9 look at the surgeon general on you tube. Where he tells you masks aren’t useful.  

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The rest of the story. .  
https://www.businessinsider.com/ame...masks

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@tidy9 the city council addressed the question “ why there are so many cases in 60016” and the city council said it was unincorporated. I believe it was on this video.  
https://play.champds.com/desplaines...nt/29

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@republicanize73 I work in a nursing home sir. Spare me the stats please

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The cases came from idiots running around Jerry’s and other stores without any thing to protect there faces at all. The nursing home has masks for all of us. And protective gear as well

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@tidy9 maybe you didn't read what I posted, I agree masks are needed

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The cases also came from the seniors who refuse to wear masks and turn around and jump on the bus. And not respect social distancing. I literally have to get up and change seats

Answer 21

By Zip code Per  
http://dph.illinois.gov/covid19/cov...stics

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@republicanize73 Yes it says it on there 60016. —-2086 tested and 60018 —-956 tested

Answer 22

Hardly anyone tested . Tons have with zero symptoms. Could be you!  

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But 95% of us dont. I like those odds

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@linkboy and you got that figure from where? I watch everything and read everything and never saw that figure.  

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@choriocarcinoma3 in Des Plaines the total number infected is now around 1000 and the population of Des Plaines is 56000. That actually means 1. 7%. So sorry 98%.  

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Now if you say there are a lot of people who don’t have any symptoms and don’t know they have it I can’t say. But when you think about it, and you are practicing all the safe stuff and not getting near others then that’s the best isn’t it?  

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@linkboy no one will know how we've been impacted until we get the antibody tests done. This is great if you're living on a teacher's salary, but people are jobless and going hungry. At a certain point, something's gotta give.  

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@lustihood yes I’m afraid so.  

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@linkboy you say you work with numbers, how can you say that? There is nothing that says that only 1000 of the 56000 are infected, only that 707 of the 2086 tested are infected, that would be 33%. Glad we don't depend upon you for our data analysis.  

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@republicanize73 makes much more sense!  

Answer 23

I’m just curious why Des Plaines has more cases than other nw suburbs.  

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@guatemala I know. And it’s not just more it’s A LOT more.  

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@guatemala for example park ridge and glen view are each like 1/4 Des Plaines numbers

Answer 24

Live your life get over this political fear

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@macrospore85 yes fear is taking over! Today in Aldi a man screamed at a lady behind him in line at checkout to get back six feet, she was like four feet from him( I was on the other side of the store). I wanted to yell, “Yes, get back away from Scaredy Cat! “ That was so weird. Obviously he was closer to people going down the isles than six feet. Fear causes panic and many Scaredy Cats.  

Answer 25

I’m in 60016 I’m incorporated

Answer 26

The reason is obvious. If you keep up with this thread you can see a lot of people think it’s no big deal, don’t wear masks, don’t believe most of what is happening and just live their lives as usual. Of course we have more cases. Easy to see why.  

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@choriocarcinoma3 I’m not sure where that is, everywhere I go people wear masks and avoid contact you can’t go out anywhere except the grocery store

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U can't go out without a mask what are u talking about?  

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@picrite read the past posts for the last few weeks.  

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@choriocarcinoma3 u know some people have real conditions and can't wear masks? Some are having mental breakdowns at home. I don't blame them one bit.  

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@picrite I understand but exactly my point . Of course it is hard for everyone. I too am having my own issues. But we will never get out if we don’t cooperate. The second phase will be even more contagious. So sorry for us all !  

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@choriocarcinoma3 I pray we all get out of this. The weather doesn't help at all. Vitamin d does wonders. Arizona is calling my name  

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Just stay positive and this too shall pass  

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@underglaze send a clear copy i love it

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OR. the numbers are incorrect and inflated to keep you scared and bankrupt the state

Answer 27

60016 is Des Plaines North of Algonquin. 60018 is Des Plaines South of Algonquin.  

Answer 28

That’s not my zip. Thank god

Answer 29

Question 1. Does anyone know if hospitals are overwhelmed? 2. Are all people who r tested symptomatic? Or r they testing anyone related to the symptomatic person? 3. How many more tests have they done? Meaning a month ago they had less access to tests so now the numbers are higher now

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Fantastic Resource. Thanks so much!  

Answer 30

I think they are mostly using estimates about how many people have it and are non symptomatic. Why are non symptomatic people are tested? Especially if the tests are rare

Answer 31

I'm sorry but why does that matter?  

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I was thinking the same thing but it does. For example: if one person from a family or business is sick and test + then with tracing they will test all those who have come in contact. Many if not most will test asymptomatic or low symptomatic. If they are counted as+ covid in the general numbers it seems worse. To me, it is 2 numbers I wish we had. Covid symptomatic and non symptomatic. Now, of course they can spread and that is why they should be isolated. I think the tests are becoming more available now.  

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@tarsier sorry I like to have a little hope for our future. Give me something positive out there.  

Answer 32

City manager said that according to the health department. many are in the unincorporated area. There are a lot of buildings over there behind the old trout farm. South on Dempster. Never knew that they had been there. Just the theory of a lot of people in one area.  

Answer 33

MAY I ask what’s this source? Would want the Cook County Board of Health data please. The city manager has the data. Most are in the unincorporated area. He waited for the results for the accuracy.  

Answer 34

Source please? Unless it’s the cook county health record it’s not accurate. That according to the city manager.