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Hi Friends!  I know some of you have kiddos going off to college (or already in college, or maybe you're in college yourself!Hi Friends! I know some of you have kiddos going off to college (or already in college, or maybe you're in college yourself! ). I work as an Admission Counselor at a smaller university, so I also do Financial Aid Meetings with families to go over their Financial Aid Packages. It’s about that time of year when you’ll get letters from all the schools you/your child applied for. I thought I'd share some tips and knowledge in case it helps while you’re navigating this confusing world, because I’ve seen posts recently and have tried to comment individually. I do want to post a disclaimer: each university does things differently, has different definition of terms, and every single family/student situation is ENTIRELY unique: I’m not an expert in YOUR life! I’m honestly not the expert in all these things, but know this basic knowledge can help tremendously. <3 Know the difference in types of aid: Scholarships typically refer to merit based awards. These can be academic based (off GPA/test scores), activity based (music, theatre athletics), etc. I like to think that these are things you EARNED based off what you’ve done, and have nothing to do with your financial situation. You would have received this whether your family earns 1million/yr, or whether they earn 10, 000/yr. They are things you have worked hard to earn, make sure you’ve exhausted every sort of scholarship that universities have available. Grants typically refer to something based around a circumstance in your life that qualifies you for financial help. This is why there’s a Pell Grant, your financial situation based off the FAFSA could make you eligible for a Pell Grant, a Work Study Grant, etc! At my school, we even offer a need-based grant with university money if we have a FAFSA on file. These are different than scholarships in the way that often if your financial situation changes (FAFSA info), you may not qualify for them anymore/year-by-year. It’s important to know how to maintain and renew these types of awards. Loans always refer to borrowing money that you’ll have to pay back. There are many different types, but if you file the FAFSA, you will be eligible for $5500 in federal student loans as either a mixture of subsidized/unsubsidized, or just unsubsidized. Max subsidized you may qualify for is $3500 based on your EFC, then $2000 unsub to make it to the $5500 total. There’s a mixture of amounts in-between. If you don’t qualify at all for subsidized based off income, you’ll see $5500 of unsubsidized loan available to you. It’s all based off need. I know the two loans are confusing, so simple terms: Subsidized is the best option because the government pays your interest while you’re in school. Unsubsidized accrues interest while you’re in school, you'll have to pay that back. PLEASE NOTE for any loans you’re considering do your research! There is no one-size-fits all approach to loans, you have to shop around like if you’re looking for a car loan or a mortgage option. Get informed about what will be best for you/the student and your family. Financial Aid: This is typically a general term for EVERYTHING listed above. It encompasses every sort of aid source. Think of funding college as a three legged stool. I know this sounds weird, but there are three parties that help with assisting with paying for an education. All must pull their weight as equally as possible to keep the stool from wobbling. I get frustrated with families when they don’t understand that this should be a team effort, and they should take ownership of their own part of the stool as well. Student/Family Please take ownership! What has the student done academically/activity based to qualify them for scholarships? The student must be willing to put in the work, and hopefully their family also supports their endeavors. Is there a 529/other savings put away to help? Can the student work during the summer to put that money towards their tuition bill, and during the school year as well? How much can the family help per month? PLEASE HAVE REALISTIC CONVERSATIONS WITH YOUR KIDS. I cannot tell you how awkward and what a disservice it is to hide away financial conversations from your kids. I’ve sat in rooms where I can tell the student doesn’t understand what $1000 means, let along $20, 000. Parents feel pressured because they want to give their child the world, but they can’t afford it and are too afraid to talk to their kids frankly about the conversation. PLEASE, talk to them and work with them. Make them take ownership for you to also help. These conversations cannot start too early. University This is where scholarships come in. Most universities have a “discount rate” of sorts to help make college more affordable. Though opportunities are out there from the university for students, STUDENTS often have to seek them out. I cannot tell you how many times a student hasn’t been paying attention to their email or phone and realize a month after a scholarship deadline they’ve missed out on an important opportunity. You have to seek them out, be knowledgable about what’s out there, ask Admission Counselors for help knowing what opportunities are there, etc. Universities want students to go to college, but they’re also businesses that have to keep the lights on and professors in the classrooms. This is why the stool has to be even, and it takes a team to get college financials in order. If you need help, PLEASE reach out to your student’s advocate at the school. Not all large/state schools have an individual advocate for your child, but the smaller/private schools often do. My favorite part of my job is advocating for students that have shown effort in taking ownership and trying to figure it out. Government: Federal & State Here’s the deal. If you want to even be considered for help here, you have to file the FAFSA, at least try the first year. There is Federal Aid, as well as State-based aid. Keep aware of any state deadlines, those are important, once they’ve passed, they’ve passed. File the FAFSA as early as possible (opens October 1st of your student’s senior year), send it to the schools you’re interested in ASAP. The sooner you submit that, the more likely you are to receive aid. A lot of it is first-come-first serve, don’t miss state deadlines. Don’t put it off because you’re unsure or scared of the process. Ask for help from school counselors, admission counselors, families that have already filled out the FAFSA, etc. There are these things called “FAFSA Frenzy” available at some high schools. Don’t be afraid. I know that was a lot, but I’m hopeful it could give you a strong basis of support as you approach this season in you/your child’s life! I know there will be questions, and I’m happy to go over broad things, but please take ownership of your personal situation and talk to the schools that you/your student is considering. Sending all the positive vibes as you navigate this process!  
Hi Friends!  I know some of you have kiddos going off to college (or already in college, or maybe yo

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Thank you for posting this!  
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I have saved this post. My son is a junior this year and so this conversation (s) is right around the corner.  
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@endowment same here.  
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@keelby2 Stay strong friend.  
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Thanks so much for breaking it down  
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Any info on graduate school FA & loans and how it differs? I still owe for undergrad but have put in applications this round for grad school. Thanks!  
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Graduate students are only eligible for unsubsidized loans from the federal government. Sometimes universities will have grants available or scholarships so you may want to discuss that with your specific university
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@seineetmarne look into GA positions as well! Graduate school FA is very different, I’m definitely not an expert so ask definitely ask questions as you narrow down your school!  
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Thank you.  
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THANK YOU! for taking the time to create this post. My daughter is a junior in HS, and I'm already feeling the pressure of the great unknown as we start to navigate this process
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Love this! So wonderful for you to word these things out for those folks either with first generation students or those who haven't learned the ins and outs of all the ways to get aid.  
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@bussey I wish there was some sort of free class/course for students and/or families to take to go over the basics! I feel lucky and proud of our university for taking the time to break things down. Honestly, first gen families are my favorite to work with because they genuinely want the knowledge and typically take more ownership than some non-first gen students. I’m glad I could be of help!  
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I’m so glad I could be of help to you all! Let me know if there are any other general questions, I’m happy to help  
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@railing4751 LOL i also have felt led to write a similar post about credit scores since often times i see a post and there is a lot of mis-information out there! Always good when someone can share their expertise!  
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❤️Thank you so much @railing4751! We have our college financial aid meeting for my HS senior next week and you answered 2 of my questions already! ❤️
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@saboteur I’m glad! Definitely still ask them those questions too to make sure the answer is consistent. I’m happy you have a FA meeting set up!  
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This is great info. Thank you for sharing!  
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Thanks! I filled the Fafsa out in October for my daughter who is a senior in high school. I’ve gotten all the packages. I assume this is for her freshman year or do I have to fill it out again after my tax returns this February again for her freshman year?  
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@highlander it is for her freshman year! You won’t have to fill it out again until October
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@highlander Yep, just freshman year! You have to file the FAFSA every year, always opens October 1st for the next academic school year!  You don’t have to do it again until October 1st, the FAFSA now looks at “prior prior year” taxes, so it’s based off 2018 taxes for this upcoming school year. You’re all set for now, until October 1st!  
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@highlander the earlier you fill it out the more money you are likely to receive. Colleges and universities offer funding on a first come, first served basis.  
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Thanks so much!  
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RoseYu, tthought about you and the convo we had last week.  
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Thanks so much for this info
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I'm a high school teacher and I've found some students believe there's a stigma about starting off at a community college, but that's ridiculous. CC's are a fantastic and affordable way to begin your higher education, particularly if they're a 1st generation college student. They offer nearly all of the gen ed requirements for any college with a liberal arts curriculum and have active student life organizations. Many even have athletic teams.  
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@wit I agree! I always say, exhaust all options. Sometimes transfer scholarships aren’t great, so I think it’s worth applying to CC as well as the school you want to transfer into. I had a few friends in HS do CC for two years, then when they transferred into the private school I went to they ended up paying the same/more for their last 2 years than if they had come in from the start. It’s worth exhausting all options, there’s no 1-size-fits-all approach to college!  
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@wit I went to CC and then went to university and graduated with a biology degree. I was just accepted to a double master’s program at a great university (Touro California). CC has made absolutely no difference in my opportunities and my mom really appreciated the cheaper bill.  
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Thank you so much for all of this information! My daughter has been accepted to 6 universities already! I really need this information. :)
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Heartfelt thank you! I am clueless about this stuff. My husband has always handled it for my kids. Now I can enter the conversation and not feel completely ignorant. Thank You.  
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@rabin771 glad I could be of help! Don’t be afraid to ask questions and try to understand it better with your husband!  
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We are thankfully in Tennessee so in 5 years (yikes! ) when we have to start the financial looking, he can get the Tennessee Promise and attend a community college then go on to the university in the town we live in.  
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@catechize I’m glad states have opportunities like that, we have one here where I live and it’s helped many students.  
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Thank you for this. It confirms what I already knew and what I keep telling my daughter. She is in her Jr year and we have visited two colleges. She doesn’t know/care where she goes and I told her she really needs to start figuring out where she wants to apply by this summer. She seems to be very unconcerned about making any decisions and doesn’t want to talk about it. I don’t know if I just sit back and let it all fall apart or keep pushing her.  
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@cressy I personally would try to ask different questions. Is her apathy towards college because of the pressure? Because she’s afraid to make a decision? Or perhaps it has nothing to do with college, but everything to do with something she’s experiencing in HS right now. Maybe a social pressure, into whatever activity she’s in now, etc. Might be that she’s more concerned with the present than the future, which isn’t a bad thing. Just important to see if she needs extra support where she is right now, and perhaps with that support it will help her shift her focus towards future goals. Hard to say not knowing anything about your daughter, but sometimes kiddos feel tons of pressure and don’t feel like their voice will be heard even if they speak up. So why bother talking about it if mom/dad won’t support it or will be disappointed in them? Results in apathy sometimes. I’d eventually get to whether or not she wants college, maybe her dream is different? Maybe she feels put into a box that she doesn’t want to be in? I’m just brainstorming here, not sure if it’s helpful. I personally don’t think college is for everyone, and it’s important that she feels excitement/determination if she does choose that route. She also might worry you will reject her ideas, so show her you love her unconditionally (as I know you do). Unconditionally means without conditions, and the condition of going to college might make her feel suffocated and she doesn’t want to bring up a different dream if she fears she’ll lose your love and support. Again, just a brain dump, with limited knowledge of your daughter, but hopefully something that could help. ❤️
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@railing4751 she wants to be a teacher. I have always told my kids do what they love don’t worry about the money. You will figure out how to make it happen but what is important is that you are not stuck doing something you hate. I just fear deadlines coming and going and her not doing what she needs to. I guess that is part of letting them become adults too.  
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@cressy This might feel off topic, but I think it’s a helpful concept. Go watch the TED talk by @rabin771 Flowers about 5 people you need to have in your life. I think she might need a coach right now. And by that, I mean someone that is where she wants to go, that can give her the motivation to start figuring out how to get there themselves. Maybe she connects deeply with one of the teachers at her school? Maybe encourage her to talk with that teacher about what it takes to become a teacher. Maybe you reach out to the teacher and mention your daughter might benefit from their insights. If she isn’t wanting to talk about it with you, maybe she needs to hear it from someone else to help her gain perspective and motivation. Maybe she needs to find her “why” of what that type of career path will allow her to fulfill. She might find that her “why” could be fulfilled in different career options than she might expect. I wouldn’t worry too much about deadlines right now, most applications don’t open until the summer anyway. Just be cautious of fall semester application/scholarship deadlines. You all are earlier than a lot of people to approaching the conversation, getting to the heart of what she wants to do and why is the most important step to take, and you’re approaching it now which is fantastic.  
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I am a teacher also. She wrote her first lesson plan this week for English class. 2 1/2 hours in she proclaimed that this is ridiculous. I will send her to he Chem teacher.  
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@cressy she might be doubting her path! Get to the why behind being a teacher. Maybe it’s because she wants to help youth. There’s multiple ways to do that.  
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@railing4751 this might be a silly question, but I’ve always been confused. do grants have to be paid back (like a loan? ) or are they free money to the student?  
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@ye34835 not a silly question! Grants are free gift aid, do not need to be paid back.  only loans!  
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Great job! I'm a financial aid administrator and this is so good!  
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@maestro1075 I’m so glad you commented! I know I’m not an expert, so this makes me feel great that it is good content for others ❤️
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What I don’t understand and I’m Canadian so it’ll be different. Is there is no record of where the money comes from when burseries are dropped in my kids account. She’s had her whole year paid for and more and only a few hundred shoes up as owing.  
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@teodoro I know Canada must be a whole different ball game! I’m not sure the best advice for this, but I’d reach out to her university to ask more questions for clarification!  
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@railing4751 i was told they just drop money in if burseries aren’t taken and there won’t ever be a record of them. But they might be considered income‍♀️.  
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@teodoro That seems bizarre to me, but I don’t know the process at all. Sounds like an accounting nightmare lol! I’d do some research, reach out to other families that are going through the process, deep dive on the internet to understand the process too. I’m completely unfamiliar, maybe there are some other Canadians in the group that could give you insight!  
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@railing4751 it is bizarre. That’s why even though we were told we would never know who paid out I still am curious. She got almost $7000 and owes $1000.  
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When I was in school, the university (or whoever gave the bursary) would send me a T form for tax time. a different one versus the t4 we get for work. It's not "income" but gets reported. that was 16 years ago, but I don't think they would change that.  
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@alboran thanks.  
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Thanks for this information. I have one junior and one sophomore in college. The FAFSA really trips us up every time!  
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Thank you so much for sharing! This is very helpful!  
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Thank you so much! All this college stuff can get confusing quickly!  
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Thank you do much for sharing this info!  
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Thanks for taking the time to share this with us!  
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Thank you!  
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As a financial aid counselor for 10+ years  that was awesome. You nailed it!  
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@approach5787 thank you so much! ❤️ glad to hear I’m on the right track. This is only year 2 for me!  
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@railing4751 you def know your stuff!  
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