If your like me, I spent a lot of time perfecting the rules, that even if I recall everything it would still be a major pain. I only have about 30 devices. Zwave +, might make me rethink that, but I’m not sure if it’s true, but I also read to get the benefit from zwave +, everything has to be Zwave +. However you likely will have to upgrade at some point, but there might be a better hub by that time.