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Makes you wonder if professional thieves are carrying wifi blockers around with them if everything should be hardwired? Edit: Not my car, saw on a different group
Makes you wonder if professional thieves are carrying wifi blockers around with them if everything s

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Hardwired stuff exists. Ring stuff exists because there is demand for convenience in setup. It’s a tradeoff. PS get a UPS for your wifi router and modem especially if you have the alarm.  
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What is a UPS?  
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@pantry93815 uninterruptible power supply. Battery backup.  
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@sverre61 that wouldnt help with a wifi blocking attack.  
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@pantry93815 that’s why I mentioned hardwired options.  
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@sverre61 gotcha
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Stick-Up Wired Cams can be Hard-Wired (with Ethernet).  
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Owned my dream car for 2 days and some scum bag did the same to us. I now have CCTV and a Ring doorbell. Wish you luck getting car back @dollhouse. Hard wire their nuts to the supply be more appropriate.  
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Its only a matter of time. “this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation. "
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High end car theives are more sophisticated than your average burglar or porch pirate. It is possible they have an illegal jammer.  
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@carrero2325 Jammers arent illegal but using them for criminal activity well yeah of course
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@sankey according to the FCC Wi-Fi jammers are illegal.  
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@carrero2325 Not sure in the USA im in the UK dude
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@sankey yeah, that would make a bit of difference.  
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@carrero2325 Not sure using 2. 4ghz is illegal as such anyway as majority of people use it for wifi and short range data anyway. It would've been better if all the Ring Products supported 5G mind
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@sankey 5G or 5 gigahertz? My Ring Pro has 5ghz and it's useless. even ten feet (3 meters) from the router. 2. 4 may be slower, but it has better much range and barrier penetration.  
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@carrero2325 Sorry yes 5 ghz. Yeah my Ring Floodlight and DoorBell are well withing range but shame the floodlight doesnt support 5G nor does the chime! The Video Doorbell Pro does however which is a plus. Im only saying this as 5 Ghz isnt as widely used and most jammers only work on 2. 4ghz could be wrong though
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There was a post the other day where someone had footage of a man walking up to door holding his phone out near it, I said then maybe he was scanning for wifi
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@obbard there was a similar situation that happened locally last week. A random photo being taken.  
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If those thieves were the smart OCEANS ELEVEN’s guys. They were not going to target some little cash  car keys, a laptop and weed in a house.  
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All my outside cameras and doorbell are hardwired!  
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I understand. Very sad there are people that do these things. Low lives that have potential to put in honest work in society choose to devalue themselves and make everyone else’s lives who put in good work miserable. Very frustrating as well.  
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I am not sure what state you are in. In the Maryland, DC, Virginia area, cars are jacked and sitting at the docks getting loaded to go to Europe, Asia, and Africa sometimes before the report is taken. They are even seen in some of these countries still displaying the US license plates.  
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I agree and the ones standing on a corner begging don’t give them money tell them get a job that is what we did
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Knocking wifi devices offline is trivial. look up wifi deauthentication attack.  
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@transfigure7 was thinking the same thing. . unfortunately really need a hard wire network
https://hackernoon.com/forcing-a-de...nnect
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Nope. Deauthentication frames are built into the wifi standard and can be injected without authenticating to the AP. From wikipedia: "An attacker can send a deauthentication frame at any time to a wireless access point, with a spoofed address for the victim. The protocol does not require any encryption for this frame, even when the session was established with Wired Equivalent Privacy (WEP) for data privacy, and the attacker only needs to know the victim's MAC address, which is available in the clear through wireless network sniffing. [2][3]"
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That is why I got a ring doorbell 2. Someone at my job messed up my car. Someone saw her and told the police. She went to jail a few day later. This is why I drive the Honda to that job and not my Mercedes Benz.  
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@buke79 sucks though you can’t drive the nicer car. Stupid people!  
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@clipboard Right. I didn't even do anything to her. She was listening to you say I say. Omg . So now I want to carmeras on the house. I got one camera on the front door for now. It sucks.  
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That's why I don't drive a Bugatti to work as well.  
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@segment9 Nice !  
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I know we have had thieves here in Sweden that uses small gsm-boxes that imitates a connection point. So the gsm house alarms call out but get blocked by the fake access point. Easy and not expensive to buy online. So that even small time thieves are running around with WiFi-blockers does not surprise me at all.  
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Or they could have cut the power off to the house.  
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Most new cars have GPS built into them but a stand alone unit can be purchased and installed very inexpensively to help in the the recovery
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Maybe some climate activists?  
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Hi neighbors, as Ring doorbells are wifi-enabled, most need a wifi signal to operate. If you’re concerned about burglars using wifi jammers, please direct message me so I can chat with you about other options, like Ethernet-enabled devices.  
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If the Ring device was programmed well enough it would use a "store & forward" method to deliver the saved video once wifi is re-established.  
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@hamrick Right. When my wifi was now. The ring doorbell 2 still recorded the entire time.  
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They dont use wifi Jammers where I live, they just wear hoodies and masks
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If I had a car like that it would be in the garage and the keys in my pocket.  
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If its running on Wifi yep that goes without saying. Mine runs on 5G so hopefully be more unlikely but yeah 2. 4ghz is easy to block
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Obviously they wanted that car very badly
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I wonder if there’s a way to trigger an alarm when WiFi is being blocked?  
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@tool2608 it would be related to some type of connectivity test. So a signal is send every 10 seconds (as an example), then when the signal is not received, it triggers an automated alert/alarm.  
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Shouldn’t there be some such fail safe against WiFi blocking?  
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@tool2608 look at PRTG. Nice network tool that is perfect for this
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I have a Simply Safe alarm, good luck bad guys
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@trap5958 My garbage SS went to the landfill 3-4 yrs ago.  
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Still the best anti theft car device is a kill switch that only you know about. They can look for hours, but without 12v’s, the car doesn’t move.  
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Get better insurance. You can't stop people from stealing cars. Back in atlanta they just pull up with a repo truck or flatbed and your shits goes 30 secs or less
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