Question

I have 1 3-way switch in my house that doesn't have a neutral for whatever reason. Can you recommend a neutral less 3-way for me? Zigbee, zwave, wifi, I am not picky. Thanks!  

Answer 1

Have you checked to see if the other light switch attached to the three way switch has a neutral wire in the box? I know GE's new light switches don't require a neutral wire, but I'm not sure if they are available.  

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@obelisk yea neither box has the neutral, I was surprised!  

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@rap718 this is what I am planning in my basement where the switch controls an outlet for the lights and doesn't have a neutral at either switch.  

Answer 2

Can it be a dimmer? If so, Inovelli all the way. If it's an LED, you might need a bypass for it. I have this exact scenario in our half story upstairs that we turned into a bedroom and used the inovelli Red Series dimmer. I have a dumb switch on the other end, but you can use an add on switch or another smart switch too I believe.  

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Looks like they still have "unboxed" ones on their site for $30 too. Seems like a great deal since the instructions are available online.  

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@dallasdalli2 awesome I just ordered one!  

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@strongwilled just a heads up if you keep the other switch as a dumb switch, I had to change the settings at the switch itself (directions are in the manual online) rather than just in the smartthings app to get it to work properly. I've seen others report this too on the inovelli forums.  

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@dallasdalli2 cool I will check it out!  

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@strongwilled you’ll need to buy GE add-on switches for the other switches. Can’t use dumb switches without a neutral.  

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@intravasation is right. I totally forgot you can't use it in a 3-way non-neutral without an add-on. I assumed I had a neutral when I bought it and happened to have an extra add-on laying around when I discovered I didn't.  

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@dallasdalli2 does the ge addons require the ge hub?  

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Annoying to find out after the fact, but the switches are great. I have 6 so far and plan to purchase more. Just make sure you budget for extra switches.  

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@strongwilled no extra hub needed. Just an add-on switch so you can control from both places. If you want dimming/scene control at both spots, you could also get an extra inovelli dimmer and use that as your add-on

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@dallasdalli2 so 2 inovellis wired the same way on both ends will do it?  

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@strongwilled you'd have to look up the wiring, but you essentially wire them both up and then associate them together in smartthings so they mirror each other

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@dallasdalli2 thanks I appreciate it

Answer 3

I'll second the inovelli dimmer suggestion. And even if you want it to act as a switch, you can just set the ramp rates to 0 and it's near instant on/off

Answer 4

Cool thank you, I just ordered an Inovelli unboxed from their website!  

Answer 5

Inovelli dimmer for sure. like mike said, just set the ramp rates to 0 and you should be fine if you don't want the dimming feature.  

Answer 6

Inovelli LWZ31 zwave 3 way switch

Answer 7

Inovelli by far the best solution. Great hardware and awesome support.